THE WHATABOUTS - Studies of common false-christian questions. from Bro Steve Winter DD's blog

THE WHATABOUTS, Studies of common false-christian questions.


False-christian churches serve the devil as spiritual abortion mills.  They abort souls from truly becoming born again by inoculating them against the truth with doctrines of devils.


2Cor 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 

2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


Because of their inoculation against the truth of the Bible many will react to the truth by saying "whatabout this?" or "whatabout that?" because their false preacher has already poisoned them against the truth by filling them with false doctrines designed to prey upon their ignorance and keep them from every obeying Acts 2:38 and escaping the snare of the devil.


One of the main examples is where a false-christian will fight against the truth that they need to obey Acts 2:38 by saying "Whatabout the thief on the cross?" because they think that proves their point because the thief was obviously not baptised.   What they are willingly ignorant of is the fact that the thief on the cross in the Bible died quite a period of time before Acts 2:38 was preached.  The thief on the cross died before the New Testament Church was born; before the commandment to be baptised in Jesus Name was even preached.  How could he obey what had not yet been commanded?  The True Christian Church started on the Day of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2.  The books Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are histories before the Church started.  You may have noticed that Jesus always spoke of His Church in future tense.


Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 


Bro. Steve Winter 


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Bro Steve Winter DD
Jan 31 '14
WHATABOUT the thief on the cross?

The thief on the cross died before the New Testament Church was born. The new testament Church was born in Acts 2:4 and the new testament plan of salvation preached in Acts 2:38, confirmed in Acts 2:39 and preached and practiced by the Apostles Acts 19-4-6.

One of the tricks that many false preachers use in their deception is that they use the "thief on the cross" as "proof" that baptism in Jesus name is not required for salvation. They use that one account of the "thief on the cross" to deceive people into flat ignoring *bunches* of verses about baptism, even a verse where the Lord Himself declares baptism as ESSENTIAL, they will ignore ALL these verses:

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

* Jesus said,"... AND is baptized" *

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

* Sins washed away THROUGH baptism *

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

* Believers were always baptized. *

Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

* Just look at those verses about Jesus name baptism! But the false preachers will still proclaim "thief on the cross" and those so deceived will go "amen brother"... BUT!! What the false preachers and those so deceived are overlooking is: The thief DIED BEFORE Baptism in Jesus name was even instituted and preached by the apostle Peter!! When the thief on the cross died, the new testament church had not been born; Jesus had not yet risen from the dead!!! The thief on the cross was dead for over a month BEFORE Acts 2:38 was even preached. *

The thief on the cross was not even in the "church" dispensation, the commandment to be baptised had not been given.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.

I really hope that you can see the deception in the "thief on the cross" argument against baptism. But I hope that if your preacher told you that lie, that you will realize that he has lied to you about other things as well, and is not really a man of God at all.

The Bible warns so many times, in so many places that there will be MANY false preachers leading people to hell. People who are being led into hell by false preachers BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE SAVED; that is the job of the false preacher to keep them feeling "secure".

Does your preacher teach the "thief on the cross" as an excuse to
undermine the essentiality of baptism? If so, are you going to follow him/her/it into the pits of hell, anyway?

Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Luke 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Romans 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
WHATABOUT the thief on the cross?

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DOUGLAS MASON II
Feb 20 '14
I WAS ALWAYS PREACHING BAPTISM SO MANY THINK IT'S DOES NOT HAVE A --( GOD )-- SUPERNATURAL))-- AFFECT...BUT IT DOES ...O IT DOES..I WAS BAPTIZED CATHOLIC AND CONFIRMED...BUT WHEN I MEANT CHAPLIN JOHN AT CCA/LAC PRISON IN KENTUCKY AND HE SHOWED ME THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ONENESS OF GOD ..GAVE ME BOOKS TO STUDY BY DAVID K BERNARD UPCI IT WAS SO CLEAR AND I WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST..AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF THE WATER HALLELUJAH CAME OUT OF ME IN PURE JOY..LOUD AND CLEAR :)
I WAS ALWAYS PREACHING BAPTISM SO MANY THINK IT'S DOES NOT HAVE A --( GOD )-- SUPERNATURAL))-- AFFECT...BUT IT DOES ...O IT DOES..I WAS BAPTIZED CATHOLIC AN...See more
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DOUGLAS MASON II
Feb 20 '14
THE( NAME ) NOT TITLES OR MODES OF OPERATIONS TITLES WHAT NAME =JESUS CHRIST
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