True Salvation Sermon - Bro Steve Winter
This is my text that I used for my 05/12/2005 sermon
It should be available in audio format at
True Bible salvation is a hotly debated subject with many diverse opinions and beliefs. I submit that it is very important what we believe.
1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
If what we believe is not accurate then our belief is in vain. You owe it to yourself and to your family to make sure that what you believe is the same as what the Bible teaches.
Satan is in the ministry business and he has many diligent, dedicated workers.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Many of Satan's ministers really think that they are "Christian preachers" and have no clue that they are deceiving souls into hell. That will be no excuse for them in judgment, however.
Why would someone think that they could be saved without being baptised in Jesus Name and receiving the real Holy Ghost of the Bible. Almost anyone in any church of any kind will claim to have the Holy Ghost because they read about it! But the only evidence that the Apostles accepted was that they heard them speak with tongues.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Basic essential elements of salvation after repentance are: WATER and SPIRIT. We should take note that a grown man was told by God manifest in the flesh that he had to be born of water and that he had to be born of the Spirit.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
How can anyone continue to believe the false preachers who teach that grace means nothing to obey?
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Consider here, why would any real man of God try to talk you OUT of putting on Christ as so many of the false-christian preachers do when they fight against Jesus Name Baptism?
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Yes even with that verse we still have the devil's ministers deceiving multitudes of souls. Look at that verse. Is it telling you to do one thing or to do two things? What part of the word "and" do you not understand?
If you pay good money for a wash AND wax for your car, don't you expect both to be done?
Jesus Christ gave the Apostle Peter the keys to the kingdom of God. What will become of those who choose to reject what Peter did with those keys. It has become commonplace that the devil's workmen go so far as to teach people that Peter disobeyed Jesus. They say something like, "Well I will take Jesus's words over Peter's any day." They are fishing for fools and catching a plenty!
If we can't trust the Apostles we have a big problem. Was it not the Apostles themselves who told us what Jesus said? Who else do we have to refer to but the Apostles to even have a clue what Jesus said?
Many attack me for being less than tolerant towards the devils's deceivers, but what does Paul tell the Christians to do regarding deceivers?
2 Cor 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Again consider what role that Satan's servants will play. They will pretend to be teaching righteousness. They will get jobs as preachers.
Can we reject Peter's Acts 2:38 message without rejecting the One who sent him?
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Are those false-preachers who want you to disregard Peter's Acts 2:38 salvation message really your friend?
Was Jesus nice to everyone? He didn't coddle false preachers and the falsely religious.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
We should not be surprised when the devil's servants lie! They are just doing their job for the father of lies.
One can't reject Peter without rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ who gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven. So we had better know what Peter taught, and you can know this for yourself.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
How can anyone even imagine that they would be among the "called of God" when they reject the Acts 2:38 salvation that Peter preached on the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ?
We need to also know that water baptism is to be done in Jesus Name. We monotheists have no problem with that, but polytheists really stumble on that and actually show us that they truly are polytheistic and really are teaching three god squad members.
Satan's servants, the false-christian preachers have found that the best way to keep people from seeking the real Baptism of the Holy Ghost is to convince them they already have it and then just hold them by their religious pride.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
See, we Pentecostals didn't make up the part about other tongues! If you don't like tongues then you have a problem with God and with His Word.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied
Paul once said:
1 Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
We find examples in the Bible where people received the baptism of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues before they were baptised in Jesus Name. There are other examples where people were baptised in Jesus Name before they received the Holy Ghost. Both are valid salvation experiences since the Bible documents both scenarios as valid.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Whenever either ingredient of the "water and Spirit" Christian New Birth was missing, the Apostles of Jesus IMMEDIATELY added the missing ingredient. If a person was baptized in Jesus Name then the Apostles would pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit. (that also proves that people don't automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they first "believe" as some of Satan's ministers teach. When people received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, the Apostles immediately baptized them in Jesus Name.
These are not man made doctrines I am preaching to you!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 ¶ Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Note how they had been baptized in Jesus Name. Now why would any true Christian fight against Jesus Name water baptism?
Acts 10:44 ¶ While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
So how did the Apostles know that Gentiles had received the same Holy Ghost they had? They heard them speak with tongues. Now why would any real Christian want to deny you the same experience as Biblical Christianity?
Psalms 119:89 LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Even those souls who had even been baptised personally by John the Baptist were re-baptised in Jesus name for the remission of their sins. John's baptism was only for a temporary period of time. Jesus Name baptism remits sins by the POWER of the shed blood of God. That does not contradict the doctrine of the Blood of God but rather is the method whereby the Blood of God is applied to the repentant believer during their New Birth.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto JohnÂs baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.
So even with that verse 2 up there, Satan's ministers still convince people that they automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they first "believe"? They prey upon the ignorant and carnal.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Water baptism Jesus Name is the METHOD whereby one calls on the Name of the Lord.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Note the presence of both WATER and SPIRIT:
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The Bible speaks of the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ as EXACTLY the same Spirit.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Jesus was telling a grown man what he STILL needed to do in order to be saved. The grown man still had to be reborn of WATER and of the SPIRIT.
This is totally consistent with the plan of salvation that Peter, the "man with the keys to the kingdom from Jesus Himself" preached on the birthday of the New Testament Church.
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.
If your preacher told you that you don't need to obey Acts 2:38, I want you to consider these next verses.
2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the
presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
How can people be so deceived that they don't think they need to obey the Gospel?
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
See in the above verse how the Apostles considered a "non-obeyer" to be a "non-believer"?
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Bro Steve Winter
I have a few catholic questions.
1. Which one of the statues has more power, and are they specialized? IE Would you bother the Mary statue for a minor car repair problem, or would a lesser idol work?
2. Do they kiss on the other bigger idols, like they do the little cross idol? And does the "call no man father" guy wipe the bigger idols between kisses like the cross idol?
3. Can the priests turn other food items into god, or does it just work on cookies?
4. When the priests turn cookies into god, does it act as a preservative? (possible uses in the food industry, much money could be made for the poor)....
5. If a shrine has more than one Mary idol, will they function simultaneously?
6. If the Mary idol is more powerful, and they will function simultaneously, why not just use bunches of Mary idols?
7. Do bigger idols have more power than the little bitty ones?
8. Do ceramic idols have more "oomph" and "whammy" than plastic ones?
9. Do the Mary idols have more "zing", "oomph" and "whammy" than the other idols?
10. Since your priests can turn wine into blood, can that blood be used for transfusions? Think of the lives that could be saved! Or for cloning?
Thanks for sharing with us regarding the intimate details of your devout faith and worship of little thingies and grand ceramic creations.
Bro Steve Winter
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Sometimes I get troubled by the Christian attitude towards the populous. Jesus loved all men and gave His life for us. He went into the synagogues and temples (although He knew they did not believe as He did) and preached to them in love. He sat and drank and ate with the winebibbers.
I recall how in the past the Catholic church would surround villages, take their lands and any thing they had of value. They would kill and torture the people who refused to convert to the trinity way, needless to say many were recruited that way. Now centuries later the people still (because of blindness) follow the trinity doctrine, because they don't know any better!! They are blind following the blind.
How can we reach them? With Love, not with hatred, not with bitterness, but Love will cover a multitude of sins. We must gently teach them the true way, taking care not to be ensnared ourselves. These are lost souls for Christ. Startling as it may seem souls in other churches really Love God and try to be as righteous and faithful as they know how in what they are taught, some surely put Pentecostals to shame that's for sure.
I remember someone saying He will use a dishonorable vessel as well as an honorable vessel, oh yeah, I remember, it was Jesus. He loves us all. I Love Jesus and I Love them, and I Love YOU :)
First of all the Church is the Body of Christ, not a building of any sort, see 1st. Corinthians 12:12-14, Ephesians 2:19-22, 1st. Peter 2:5, and Colossians 1:24. The church is a Spiritual temple, made without hands, see Acts 7:48-50. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost, if you have recieved it, 1st. Corinthians 3:16-17. The kingdom of God is not a natural kingdom, never has been, and never will be. God is a Spirit, they that worship him must worship in Spirit and in Truth, John 4:24.
No where in scripture did Jesus command the apostles to build houses of worship, or to establish these pecking orders called denominations, organizations, and "fellowships". Jesus did not set up a ministry after the order of the Levitical priesthood, see Hebrews chapters 7 - 10. Jesus is our High priest and all saints are priests unto God, 1st. Peter 2:9 and Revelation 1:6. Jesus nor the apostles set up one bishop rule in churches, or the pastor worship so common in churches today. The New Testament was a fluid church that flowed with the moving of the Holy Ghost. The early church was a church without walls that went to the people, they did not expect the people to come to it. The New Testament ministry worked as humble servants, sacrificing everything, even there life to be the servant of Christ unto others. They were not the salaried, tithe gathering, professional speakers of today. These early men of God were common folk, working with there own hands, but called and anointed by the Holy Ghost. The approval of the religious systems of that day meant nothing to them, they wanted to only please God.
One does not need a phd or to attend a seminary to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. One must be born again according to Acts 2:38, Live a clean holy life, and be gieven the anointing from God, to be a preacher of the gospel. These early church preachers preached everywhere, with signs following, Mark 16:20. So this early church with no building existed for almost 300 years without buildings? How did they do it?
The New Testament church was Home based, the Home was the center of religious activity for them. Here are some scriptures to prove this.
Acts 20:20
And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house.
Acts 28: 30-31
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and recieved all that came in unto him, Preaching the Kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jeus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
Romans 16:5
Likewise greet the church that is in their house. (Pricilla and Aquliia)..... also 1st. Corithians 16:19
Colossians 4:15
Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
Philemon 1:2
And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in thy house.
This is just a few of the scriptures on the matter, but it is very clear that house church was the way of the New Testament Church. Also they preached in open Air in all types of locations both in the cities and in the country sides.
A study into the New Testament and early church history proves that all believers in and area were called the church of city or area. Thers were elders, over these groups, not ever just one. Elders is the same as pastor, shepherd, bishop, ect. The Apostles established churches and oversaw large areas, the evangelists and prophets moved about from place to place, as did many of the "teachers". Five fold ministry was active without the man made heiarchy of today. The people met in houses for regular meetings and in open areas for larger gatherings.
So am I against buildings? No not spicifically. But I am against the buliding cenetered church system that fails to BE the church. I am against the Man centered order of leadership based on customs that came out of Trinitarianism, and were never part of the early church. BE the Church, dont just go to an assembly, an assembly is a gathering that may just include ones own family. Most of all to obey the word of God is most important. House Church is an acceptable model of church for today.
If you were uninformed and had a choice between two candidates that were both morally neutral and saying the same thing in order to sound politically correct but one of them promised you a bunch of free stuff, which would you choose? A politician cannot tell everyone what they wish to hear while retaining his or her integrity. I have read where even God Himself said that lukewarm people make Him vomit (really look it up Revelation of John 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.)
For a position to be valid it must first be true and those demanding free handouts from a government need to be aware about where their government is going to get all that money. I can answer that one. They will take it by force from other citizens. Soon those voting money to themselves will outnumber those who are working and having their money taken by force. That is when things (and great nations) fall. This is not a new concept. Socialism sounds good to the Ignorati but does not end well except for those who happen to be rulers.
People have actually lost their lives by electing corrupt politicians who were incompetent to help them when disaster struck. New Orleans and Baltimore come to mind. Integrity and competence matter. Some might not like the way I am phrasing this but having a muslim enemy of the USA in the White House who is deliberately weakening our military while providing billions to sponsors of terrorism like Iran will certainly cost lives. Allowing them nuclear weapons will be even more problematic. Of course all that Obama does should be credited to the RINOs who were sent to stop him but lacked enough backbone. Should we blame the corrupt RINO Speaker of the House or the RINO majority leader more than those who kept them on? Have our liberal neighbors not considered that the chant "Death to America" also includes them?
Another interesting thing that seemingly few have noticed is that muslims are having quite a few babies while their Democrat and RINO pawns are promoting a holocaust of abortions here. The "black lives matter" folks might want to consider the genocide being financed by tax money through organizations like Planned Parenthood.
Meanwhile the corrupt RINO cartel is scrambling to eliminate the main constitutionally qualified candidate who is rallying unprecedented support by simply speaking the truth and then refusing to cower when attacked by politically correct truth haters.
Our country is in grave danger from socialists in both parties.
Another consideration for patriots if you are not gravely concerned yet is that if the socialist Democrat party is successful in corrupting the electoral system by flooding the US with illegal criminal voters and preventing voter ID laws then all our pet political issues will certainly be moot along with our constitution.
Bro Steve Winter DD
THE WHATABOUTS, Studies of common false-christian questions.
False-christian churches serve the devil as spiritual abortion mills. They abort souls from truly becoming born again by inoculating them against the truth with doctrines of devils.
2Cor 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Because of their inoculation against the truth of the Bible many will react to the truth by saying "whatabout this?" or "whatabout that?" because their false preacher has already poisoned them against the truth by filling them with false doctrines designed to prey upon their ignorance and keep them from every obeying Acts 2:38 and escaping the snare of the devil.
One of the main examples is where a false-christian will fight against the truth that they need to obey Acts 2:38 by saying "Whatabout the thief on the cross?" because they think that proves their point because the thief was obviously not baptised. What they are willingly ignorant of is the fact that the thief on the cross in the Bible died quite a period of time before Acts 2:38 was preached. The thief on the cross died before the New Testament Church was born; before the commandment to be baptised in Jesus Name was even preached. How could he obey what had not yet been commanded? The True Christian Church started on the Day of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2. The books Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are histories before the Church started. You may have noticed that Jesus always spoke of His Church in future tense.
Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Bro. Steve Winter
Be aware of what you are supporting with some animal "rescue" (so called) organizations. They may have clever word arrangements that spell CARE or things like that, but the bottom line is that their fuzzy "feel good" rules and regulations spell death for the animals waiting while they refuse to adopt out animals in their CARE while waiting for someone that fits their highly restrictive agenda. Sure, they may never put down any of the animals in their "CARE", but with their restrictive adoption policies a whole lot of animals are put down waiting in line that could be adopted. And you know what, some of them would end up in less than ideal homes, but compared to DEATH I think it would be preferable.
In a particular situation I am aware of personally I was willing to pay $100 for a kitten, but because I don't see the need for possibly dangerous inoculations for my other two INDOOR ONLY cats, I was rejected (I do believe strongly in rabies shots and neutering). The people running these scam organizations have my purest and deepest contempt. They do NOT deserve your support. If they really CAREd about animals they would not be playing ignorant, feel good, ego games while so many animals are being put down.
If someone is willing to pay $100 for a kitten I would seriously doubt that they planned to eat it or put it out on the street, but at least the next kitty waiting in line would have a CHANCE at life.
Some of these "rescue" groups are misrepresenting what they really are doing. Their pride and ignorance is inexcusable. Don't support them with your donations. Boycott pet supply stores that enable their stupidity and arrogance.
Steve Winter
ps. I found an ad in the newspaper that just said Free Kittens and a phone number. Our new three month old, domestic born, kitty was free and was brought home right after he allowed me to carry him around for about five minutes without scratching me. I will call the vet tomorrow to have him checked out and stuff and then have the rest of his work done when he is old enough.
Here are the first two kitties
Very basic cat tutorial and Luke and Lilly piano lessons