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FATHER, SON and HOLYGHOST ! (Serious misunderstanding amongst Christendom)
What is Father, Son and Holyghost?
Yes, this is a very reasonable question.
Let me explain, according to the Holy Bible.
When we say God, God is a Spirit. Invisible, indivisible, no flesh, no blood, no bones.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Because, the God created everything, visible and invisible of the universe, he become "Father", means, God is creator. Ok
This Father God in OT is Lord or Jehovah. See scripture below:
Isaiah 63:16
Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our Father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
Isaiah 64:8
But now, O LORD, thou art our Father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Ok . You understood now, God is Father.
This same Father God, when the fullness of time come, came to this world as "Son", Jesus, Emmanuel- God with us. Right ?
See scripture below:
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
See, God was manifest in "flesh ", means, Jesus is the manifestation of God, the Father.
Ok. Right.
This Flesh "Jesus" himself said, He, (Son-Jesus), and Father are One.
See scriptures:
John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
This Flesh form of God, Jesus was on earth about 33.5 years, shed his blood on Calvary to save the sinners, because, there is no remission of sins, without a bloodshed.
See scripture:
Hebrews 9:22
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission of sins.
So, the sinless God, Creator or Father, for remitting the sins of humanity, manifested in flesh, for shedding the sinless blood. God cannot commit sin, but for the humanity's Salvation, he became a sinner, died for you and I.
He resurrected on the third day. This same Jesus, ascended to heaven, promised us that, He will be with us, till the end of the world, as Holy Spirit.
See scriptures below:
Matthew 28:20
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Is Jesus with us physically? No.
By Holy Spirit, He dwells with (in) us.
John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
See, the Spirit of truth, dwell with Disciples, which the world cannot see Him as Holy Spirit, but the Disciples knows, Jesus is the Spirit of truth. This Spirit shall be in them.
When this Holy spirit or Holyghost came inside them?
On the day of Pentecost. Right? See the scriptures:
Acts 2:1
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2:2
And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
2:3
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
This Holyghost or Jesus Christ in Spirit form dwelling in us and lead His Church.
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Therefore, to sum up:
The God of OT, FATHER GOD, JEHOVAH, CAME TO THIS WORLD AS SON, JESUS, DIED FOR HUMANITY OF THE WORLD AND RESURRECTED FOREVER AND REGAINED THE ORIGINAL POWER OF GOD.
I hope I have explained in simple way to understand, what is Father, Son and Holyghost.
Not three (3) Gods, as trinitarians, but One God's three titles, in related to humanity.
May God bless you.
"Many" so called Christians will tell Jesus at the time of judgement:
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Jesus is going to tell "many people" of this world (majority of the people), "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".
Then, Jesus will reply as following:
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
("Many" go through broadway to destruction)
However, Jesus will tell to His "few" (minority of the people) :
Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
("Few" go through the narrow way, that find life)
"Many" so called Christians will tell Jesus at the time of judgement:
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Jesus is going to tell "many people" of this world (majority of the people), "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".
Then, Jesus will reply as following:
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
("Many" go through broadway to destruction)
However, Jesus will tell to His "few" (minority of the people) :
Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
("Few" go through the narrow way, that find life)
Moses proclaimed to Israel, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Deut. 6:4
We are second Israel in the New Testament times. Why we need 3 (trinity) gods?
So, anybody need trinity, they are not in the New Testament lsrael group. They are enemies to ONE GOD. Enemies will finally land in lake of fire.
Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever.
The God of Israel any time in the old testament said, "believe in trinity?
The prophets any time said "believe in trinity"?
When God manifested in flesh, Jesus any time taught the people, "believe in trinity?
After Jesus' ascension, his disciples any time preached "believe in trinity"?
The answer is NO.
so, the trinity doctrine is pagan, satanic and devlish and those who follow are entangled in the sin chain, pulling them to Hell fire.
Since we are second Israrel, we need the same God of Old Testament, that is our LORD JESUS CHRIST.
SALVATION IN JESUS NAME
AND
DAMNATION IN TRINITY
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"Spirit of Truth" AND
"Spirit of Error"
1 Jn. 4:6
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We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
हम परमेश्वर के हैं: जो परमेश्वर को जानता है, वह हमारी सुनता है; जो परमेश्वर को नहीं जानता वह हमारी नहीं सुनता; इसी प्रकार हम सत्य की आत्मा और भ्रम की आत्मा को पहचान लेते हैं।
Here is a Biblical yardstick to find out a man/woman or Church have "spirit of truth" OR "spirit of Error".
If a fiery preacher, whoever, it may be a :
GOD TV channel preacher,
Popular preacher,
Convention preacher,
Crusade preacher,
Miracle and sign preacher, or any Other TV channel preachers who is speaking more and more hours and says, believe in trinity, or 1 God exists in three persons and say take baptism in the name of Father Son and Holyghost, and not preaching Acts. 4:12 and not preaching the baptism according to Acts. 2:38, in the name of Jesus Christ, the spirit he possess is the " spirit of error", according to 1 Jn. 4:6.
How?
The scripture says :
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Above scripture says, anybody says that, they know God, then they have to hear what Apostles said.
What Apostles said about baptism in Acts 2:38 ?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
पतरस ने उन से कहा, मन फिराओ, और तुम में से हर एक अपने अपने पापों की क्षमा के लिये यीशु मसीह के नाम से बपतिस्मा ले; तो तुम पवित्र आत्मा का दान पाओगे।
If anybody says they know who is God and deny baptism in the name of Lord Jesus Christ, they are lead by the "spirit of error".
Apostles were thoroughly confident in what they preached and taught.
Therefore, any Christian community from Catholics to trinitarians Pentecost groups or JW, deny the baptism in the name of Lord Jesus Christ, they all are lead by "spirit of error", according to 1 Jn. 4:6.
The "spirit of truth" possessed people from 1st Century Pentecost day to today and till the coming of Jesus Christ, heard Apostles and will hear Apostles doctrine.
Examples of people who heard the doctrine of Apostles.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.
2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
The so called nominal Christians from Catholics to trinitarian Pentecost groups and JW will reject the above doctrine of Apostles.
So, 1 Jn. 4:6 we can keep as the yardstick of measuring the "spirit of truth" and "spirit of error".
OK.
Flaming fire is going to take vengeance on whom ?
Let's read following scriptures:
2 Theso. 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
और जो परमेश्वर को नहीं पहचानते, और हमारे प्रभु यीशु के सुसमाचार को नहीं मानते उन से पलटा लेगा।
The scripture says, FLAMING fire take vengeance on whom, they know not God and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
About which God, the Holy Bible refer here?
Heathen gods?
Pagan gods?
Worldly gods?
Trinity gods?
Truine gods?
Mythology gods?
Man-made gods?
Man-made idol gods?
Surely, No, but :
The Only "One" wise, great, true and living God", LORD JESUS CHRIST!
AND
Obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Who preached and proclaimed the gospel of our Lord Jesus to whole nations ?
Ans: Apostles.
So, the so called nominal Christians from Catholics to trinitarians and JW who are not obeyed the gospel of Apostles preached and taught. Instead, they brought in AD 324 Nicean creeds and dogmas in their churches and followed man-made doctrine, they are possessed by "spirit of error".
To them, flaming fire is going to take vengeance.
At the time of judgement, Jesus Christ is going to judge on whose testimony/ witness ?
Read the scripture:
2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
See here, on judgement day, " our (Apostles) testimony among you was believed".
Understand the truth?
At the time of judgement, God will punish :-
1. Those who have not consider Jesus as God,
2. Obeying not the doctrine of Apostles, and
3. Hearing not Apostles
4. Obeying not the gospel of Jesus Christ
5. Obeying not the testimony of Apostles.
So, with the yardstick of what 1Jn.4:6, we can measure a man, woman or church, whether they possess "Spirit of error" or "Spirit of truth".
In short, if the real Christians possess "Spirit of truth", they will hear what Apostles preached and taught, if not, it is to understand that, they are possessed by "spirit of error".
Who were Apostles?
1. Chosen
2. Called
3. Ordained
4. Authorised
5. Holyghost filled
6. Anointed
7. Able ministers
8. Ambassadors
9. Witnessed
10. Martyred... for Jesus.
Therefore, the yardstick is here for you to check, which is "spirit of truth" and which is "spirit of error", around us.
1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
May God bless you.
Baptism commandment!
Baptism commandment of Jesus Christ, heard by whom ?
Ans : Apostles
Commandment given to whom ?
Ans : Apostles
What's the commandment?
Mat. 28 : 19
इसलिये तुम जाकर सब जातियों के लोगों को चेला बनाओ और उन्हें पिता और पुत्र और पवित्रआत्मा के नाम से बपतिस्मा दो।
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Whether Apostles asked Jesus, what is the name of Father Son and Holyghost?
Ans : No
WhY?
Ans : Because, the Apostles understood the name of Father, Son and Holyghost is "Jesus Christ".
How ?
Jesus said, Those who have seen me hath seen the Father also, and in another verse He said, I and my Father are "One". So, the Disciples understood, Father and Son is Jesus himself. Ok
What about Holyghost?
Jn. 14 : 17
अर्थात सत्य का आत्मा, जिसे संसार ग्रहण नहीं कर सकता, क्योंकि वह न उसे देखता है और न उसे जानता है: तुम उसे जानते हो, क्योंकि वह तुम्हारे साथ रहता है, और वह तुम में होगा।
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Apostles understood the Spirit of truth is Jesus dwell with them and shall be in them. Besides the above, Jesus said, where two or three gather in my (Jesus) name, He is in the midst of them.
Therefore, Disciples understood, Father and Holyghost is Jesus Christ Himself.
Who else executed the baptism commandment of Jesus?
Ans : Disciples
In whose name ?
Ans : In the name of Jesus Christ or in the name of Lord Jesus.
Which are the direct scriptures showing baptism executed in the name of Jesus Christ/name of Lord Jesus ?
Ans:
Acts. 2 : 38
Acts. 8 : 16
Acts.10: 48
Acts.19: 1-5
Besides the above, given below a table showing baptism done in the name of Jesus Christ.
However, anybody can show a single scripture from Holy Bible, Disciples given or anybody received baptism in the name of Father, Son and Holyghost?
If the answer is yes, please furnish scriptures from Holy Bible, for my kind information.
God is one or plural?
This post being published, after viewing a live between Mr. Kuruvilla Kolanjikompil Samuel and Pastor Linu K John on 30th April, 2019.
Kuruvilla said, there is only One God and that One God's word, manifested in flesh as "Jesus" and Jesus' Father is Jehovah.
I will prove here for the information of truth seekers, the same Jehovah or Father God is manifested in flesh.
See my views and following explanation from Holy Bible :
Let me start with Gen.1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
See here, "God" created the heave and the earth. This God is Jehovah and Father. Right? Ok.
Now, look at Jn. 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
See here :
Was the word,
Word was with God,
Word was God. Right?
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
"Word was made flesh".
So, Word is God itself.
I and my word is "One". Like God and His word is One. Right ? Not a separate being, body, person, thought or conscience.
Now see :
This same "God" what we seen in Gen.1:1, manifested in flesh, called "Jesus" (for humanity's understanding-Son of God, God in the form of a Son)
Ref. 1 Tim. 3:16
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
See, how I clarified with scriptures? "God was manifested in flesh ". Not God's part, conscience or thoughts.
Another clear scripture:
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
See, "God with us" -Emmanuel". Not a part or thoughts of God, but "God with us" in human form. Right?
More clarity scriptures:
Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Jehovah God says, there is No God before him or after him and there is no Saviour beside him. Since Jehovah is the only Saviour, how can he send another Saviour? No chance at all.
In New Testament, we can see Christ is the Saviour.
Ref. Luke 2:11
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
From the above scriptures, it is understood that, Jehovah Saviour is Christ, the Saviour.
Therefore, the belief of Kuruvilla's one God is appreciable, but his denial of "Jesus as God" is condemnable!
Following are my final 2 scriptures, you to understand, "Jesus is God".
(1)
1 Jn. 3:16
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
Who laid down his life?
Ans. "God". Right?
Yet, who laid down the life?
Ans. Jesus. Means, Jesus is God.
(2)
2 Thessalonians 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
See :
Our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God,
even our Father, which hath loved us,
Jesus Christ is God and even our Father.
Therefore, I have established here, with supportings of Bible scriptures that, there is only "One God", that is "LORD JESUS CHRIST ". Rest all teachings are false and unbiblical.
Beware false teachers!
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
May God bless you.
LORD JESUS CHRIST IS :
1. One (1) God
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Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Galatians 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
2. Wise God.
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Scriptures:
Romans 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
3. Great God
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Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
4. Amighty God
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Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
Revelation 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Revelation 16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
5. True God
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John 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
2 Corinthians 1:18 But as God is true, our word toward you was not yea and nay.
1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
6. Saviour
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Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
7. Father and Everlasting Father.
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John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
8. Lord and God
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Thomas said to Jesus, My Lord and My God
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Regards,
Bro Steve Winter DD
