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Ruth Thompson

I sometimes spend hours on the web trying to tell of the Salvation of Jesus.  One of the most troubling thing I find is those LYING doctrines that "Leave OUT" important parts of Gods message.

  In particular: 

      All you have to do is believe and you shall be saved.

      All you have to do is repent then you are saved.

      That one does not have to be baptized.   (this seems to be the worse one as 

      they do not realize that baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS, they do not

      know that NO sin shall enter therein and we must have them remitted in

      baptism!)

      That one does not have to be immersed in water during baptism

      The important NAME of JESUS is not used, only titles.

 

Yes, there are scriptures that say this, but they do NOT mean that you can omit or leave out the teachings that are in Acts2:38, they cannot stop there. 

       

True Salvation is believing, repentance, being baptized in Jesus name by immersion and being filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in other tongues Acts2:38.  And then going on to live a holy life before God.

 

I'm posting this so you can be aware of the fox we are fighting as he tries to be slick, and yet SOULS MAY BE LOST by this nonsense because many people are following these demons. 

 

I hope you join me in this fight for the Lord today.  God Bless  :) 

                       

Ruth Thompson Jun 29 '13 · Rate: 5
Billy Vaughn

First of all the Church is the Body of Christ, not a building of any sort, see 1st. Corinthians 12:12-14, Ephesians 2:19-22, 1st. Peter 2:5, and Colossians 1:24. The church is a Spiritual temple, made without hands, see Acts 7:48-50. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost, if you have recieved it, 1st. Corinthians 3:16-17. The kingdom of God is not a natural kingdom, never has been, and never will be. God is a Spirit, they that worship him must worship in Spirit and in Truth, John 4:24.

 

No where in scripture did Jesus command the apostles to build houses of worship, or to establish these pecking orders called denominations, organizations, and "fellowships". Jesus did not set up a ministry after the order of the Levitical priesthood, see Hebrews chapters 7 - 10. Jesus is our High priest and all saints are priests unto God, 1st. Peter 2:9 and Revelation 1:6. Jesus nor the apostles set up one bishop rule in churches, or the pastor worship so common in churches today. The New Testament was a fluid church that flowed with the moving of the Holy Ghost. The early church was a church without walls that went to the people, they did not expect the people to come to it. The New Testament ministry worked as humble servants, sacrificing everything, even there life to be the servant of Christ unto others. They were not the salaried, tithe gathering, professional speakers of today. These early men of God were common folk, working with there own hands, but called and anointed by the Holy Ghost. The approval of the religious systems of that day meant nothing to them, they wanted to only please God.

 

One does not need a phd or to attend a seminary to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. One must be born again according to Acts 2:38, Live a clean holy life, and be gieven the anointing from God, to be  a preacher of the gospel. These early church preachers preached everywhere, with signs following, Mark 16:20. So this early church with no building existed for almost 300 years without buildings? How did they do it?

 

The New Testament church was Home based, the Home was the center of religious activity for them.  Here are some scriptures to prove this.

 

Acts 20:20

And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house.

 

Acts 28: 30-31

And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and recieved all that came in unto him, Preaching the Kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jeus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

 

Romans 16:5

Likewise greet the church that is in their house. (Pricilla and Aquliia)..... also 1st. Corithians 16:19

 

Colossians 4:15

Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

 

Philemon 1:2

And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in thy house.

 

This is just a few of the scriptures on the matter, but it is very clear that house church was the way of the New Testament Church. Also they preached in open Air in all types of locations both in the cities and in the country sides.

 

A study into the New Testament and early church history proves that all believers in and area were called the church of city or area. Thers were elders, over these groups, not ever just one. Elders is the same as pastor, shepherd, bishop, ect. The Apostles established churches and oversaw large areas, the evangelists and prophets moved about from place to place, as did many of the "teachers". Five fold ministry was active without the man made heiarchy of today. The people met in houses for regular meetings and in open areas for larger gatherings.

 

So am I against buildings? No not spicifically. But I am against the buliding cenetered church system that fails to BE the church. I am against the Man centered order of leadership based on customs that came out of Trinitarianism, and were never part of the early church. BE the Church, dont just go to an assembly, an assembly is a gathering that may just include ones own family. Most of all to obey the word of God is most important. House Church is an acceptable model of church for today.

Billy Vaughn Apr 28 '13 · Comments: 5
Billy Vaughn

In this world of seemingly no absolutes, the word of God stands unchanged. There has been a mass forsaking of holiness standard in our churches. Let me give you some scriptures about holiness

Hebrew 12:14

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.

 

1st. Thessalonians4:7

For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.

 

Romans 6:22

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

 

1st. Peter1:15-16

But as he who hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

 

1st. John 2:15-17

Love not the world, neither the thing that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.

 

1st. John 2:3-4

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

James 4:4

Ye adulterers and adultresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

 

1st. Peter 4:18

And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

 

This is just a few of the many scriptures that tell us that holiness living is a requirement, if we plan on being saved. Now this worldly church system says it dosent matter how you live, cause Jesus paid for your sins. But on the contrary Romans 6: 1-2 ... Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid...  Those whose choose to live a sinful lifestyle and still be religious will have a rude awakening on the day of judgment. Whosever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire. The Bible will be your judge, for the Word is God, John 1:1. Can you open up the pages of this book of life and find your name written therein? How? By obedience to he word of God. Do you think God is going to excuse your adultery? How about Fornication? How about idolatry? such as pagan holidays and roman catholic doctrines. How about immodest dress? it is laciviousness. How about whosoever loveth and maketh a lie? such as preaching a satanic trinity doctrine or telling your children bunny and Santa lies??? Strait  is the gate, narrow is the way that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. The complaint department is downstairs. Its a little warm and crowded down there.

Billy Vaughn Apr 13 '13 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 3
Bro Steve Winter DD

True Salvation Sermon - Bro Steve Winter

This is my text that I used for my 05/12/2005 sermon 

It should be available in audio format at

http://www.prime.org/audio


True Bible salvation is a hotly debated subject with many diverse opinions and beliefs.   I submit that it is very important what we believe.


1 Corinthians 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.


If what we believe is not accurate then our belief is in vain.  You owe it to yourself and to your family to make sure that what you believe is the same as what the Bible teaches.


Satan is in the ministry business and he has many diligent, dedicated workers.


2 Timothy 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.


Many of Satan's ministers really think that they are "Christian preachers" and have no clue that they are deceiving souls into hell.  That will be no excuse for them in judgment, however.


Why would someone think that they could be saved without being baptised in Jesus Name and receiving the real Holy Ghost of the Bible.   Almost anyone in any church of any kind will claim to have the Holy Ghost because they read about it!  But the only evidence that the Apostles accepted was that they heard them speak with tongues.


John 3:5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Basic essential elements of salvation after repentance are:  WATER and SPIRIT.  We should take note that a grown man was told by God manifest in the flesh that he had to be born of water and that he had to be born of the Spirit.


Hebrews 5:9  And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;


How can anyone continue to believe the false preachers who teach that grace means nothing to obey?


Gal 3:27  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Consider here, why would any real man of God try to talk you OUT of putting on Christ as so many of the false-christian preachers do when they fight against Jesus Name Baptism?


Mark 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Yes even with that verse we still have the devil's ministers deceiving multitudes of souls.  Look at that verse.  Is it telling you to do one thing or to do two things?    What part of  the word "and" do you not understand?


If you pay good money for a wash AND wax for your car, don't you expect both to be done?


Jesus Christ gave the Apostle Peter the keys to the kingdom of God.  What will become of those who choose to reject what Peter did with those keys.  It has become commonplace that the devil's workmen go so far as to teach people that Peter disobeyed Jesus.  They say something like, "Well I will take Jesus's words over Peter's any day."  They are fishing for fools and catching a plenty!


If we can't trust the Apostles we have a big problem.  Was it not the Apostles themselves who told us what Jesus said?   Who else do we have to refer to but the Apostles to even have a clue what Jesus said?


Many attack me for being less than tolerant towards the devils's deceivers, but what does Paul tell the Christians to do regarding deceivers?


2 Cor 11:12  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.

13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


Again consider what role that Satan's servants will play.   They will pretend to be teaching righteousness.  They will get jobs as preachers.  


Can we reject Peter's Acts 2:38 message without rejecting the One who sent him?


Matthew 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19  And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


Are those false-preachers who want you to disregard Peter's Acts 2:38 salvation message really your friend?   


Was Jesus nice to everyone?   He didn't coddle false preachers and the falsely religious.


John 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.   


We should not be surprised when the devil's servants lie!  They are just doing their job for the father of lies.


One can't reject Peter without rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ who gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven.  So we had better know what Peter taught, and you can know this for yourself.


Acts 2:36  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

37 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


How can anyone even imagine that they would be among the "called of God" when they reject the Acts 2:38 salvation that Peter preached on the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ?


We need to also know that water baptism is to be done in Jesus Name.  We monotheists have no problem with that, but polytheists really stumble on that and actually show us that they truly are polytheistic and really are teaching three god squad members.  


Satan's servants, the false-christian preachers have found that the best way to keep people from seeking the real Baptism of the Holy Ghost is to convince them they already have it and then just hold them by their religious pride.  


Acts 2:4  And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


See, we Pentecostals didn't make up the part about other tongues!   If you don't like tongues then you have a problem with God and with His Word.


Acts 19:6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied


Paul once said:


1 Corinthians 14:18  I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:


We find examples in the Bible where people received the baptism of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues before they were baptised in Jesus Name.   There are other examples where people were baptised in Jesus Name before they received the Holy Ghost.  Both are valid salvation experiences since the Bible documents both scenarios as valid.


John 3:5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Whenever either ingredient of the "water and Spirit" Christian New Birth was missing, the Apostles of Jesus IMMEDIATELY added the missing ingredient.  If a person was baptized in Jesus Name then the Apostles would pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit.  (that also proves that people don't automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they first "believe" as some of Satan's  ministers teach.   When people received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, the Apostles immediately baptized them in Jesus Name.    


These are not man made doctrines I am preaching to you!


Acts 8:12  But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

13  Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

14 ¶ Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

15  Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16  (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17  Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.


Note how they had been baptized in Jesus Name.  Now why would any true Christian fight against Jesus Name water baptism?


Acts 10:44 ¶ While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45  And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47  Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48  And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


So how did the Apostles know that Gentiles had received the same Holy Ghost they had?  They heard them speak with tongues.  Now why would any real Christian want to deny you the same experience as Biblical Christianity?


Psalms 119:89  LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.


Even those souls who had even been baptised personally by John the Baptist were re-baptised in Jesus name for the remission of their sins.  John's baptism was only for a temporary period of time.  Jesus Name baptism remits sins by the POWER of the shed blood of God.  That does not contradict the doctrine of the Blood of God but rather is the method whereby the Blood of God is applied to the repentant believer during their New Birth.


Acts 19:1  And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2  He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3  And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.

4  Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5  When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

7  And all the men were about twelve.


So even with that verse 2 up there,  Satan's ministers still convince people that they automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they first "believe"?   They prey upon the ignorant and carnal.


Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Water baptism Jesus Name is the METHOD whereby one calls on the Name of the Lord.


Colossians 2:12  Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.


Note the presence of both WATER and SPIRIT: 


Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


The Bible speaks of the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ as EXACTLY the same Spirit.   


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


James 1:22  But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.


John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


Jesus was telling a grown man what he STILL needed to do in order to be saved.   The grown man still had to be reborn of WATER and of the SPIRIT.


This is totally consistent with the plan of salvation that Peter, the "man with the keys to the kingdom from Jesus Himself" preached on the birthday of the New Testament Church.


Matthew 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19  And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Acts 2:41  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.


If your preacher told you that you don't need to obey Acts 2:38, I want you to consider these next verses.


2 Thessalonians 1:7  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the

presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;


How can people be so deceived that they don't think they need to obey the Gospel?


1 Peter 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?


Romans 10:16  But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?


See in the above verse how the Apostles considered a "non-obeyer" to be a "non-believer"?


Galatians 3:27  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Bro Steve Winter

 

Gary Pifer
My thoughts on the Sabbath,

I see it as quite simple. There are 2 claiming to be God. One claims the 7th day (Sabbath) and the Other claims the 1st day (Sun-day). They are complete opposites.

So we of Creation have choices. I just hope we pick the right day. I know that
the Sabbath is safe, I will not be caught on my knees on the day of the Sun, just in case.

I have problems with the "Lord's Day", as Lord is a title and I do not recall a last name given.

 

Gary Pifer Apr 10 '13 · Comments: 4
Billy Vaughn
It has been asked of me by some if im starting a church. No, the Church was born on the day of Pentecost, all I can do is BE the Church and work to add to it. What we need is a revolution here in America anyway. It is not the will of God for every church house to be over flowing with attendees who do nothing. God want us to BE the church. A church without walls that flows from house to house, city to city. We need a mass forsaking of the traditions of men and a back to the Bible revolution to take its place. Join the Movement! Read and obey Acts 2 and become the church instead of just attending one.
Billy Vaughn Apr 6 '13 · Comments: 1
Billy Vaughn

I had a fairly normal childhood I guess. My parents were divorced when I was about 7. I grew up loving wrestling and rock n roll. By the time I was 11 I was experimenting with drugs, witchcraft, and was addicted to satanic music. But I had always been taken to church all my life, in various denominations. By the time I was 12, I was having suicidal thoughts and deep depression. It just hit me that if  didnt get ahold of God I was going to end up Dead quick. So one night at a trinitarian "pentecostal" church I repented. I mean REPENTED! I went home that night and tore down the posters all over my walls and broke all my heavy metal cds. The next day people said "what happend to you?". They could see an immediate change in me. My teen age years were like most, lots of ups and downs, tempations and giving in to those temptations. But I always knew that I was going to serve God and that deep down there was something special God had for me. When I was 15 I began to study the Bible alot and about different types of chuches. I was drawn to holiness. I began to seek out sanctification and holy living. I began preaching in the Church of God denomination at age 16. About that time a gradual change was happening about how I veiwed God, that Jesus was the one to pray to.  I had read some apostolic literature then Bam! It hit me like a ton of bricks. Jesus Christ is God and I have been so blind! I got the revelation of the oneness of God. I new about a Jesus Name church about 50 miles away that an elderly lady had invited me to quite some time before. I knew she lived holy and had prayed fo me. One night I walked in that little backwoods Jesus Name church in south east Ky. That Lady turned around from her seat and pointed to me and said "I knew you would be here!" I looked around and people were shouting, praying, speaking in tongues, and praying for each other. I wanted what they had. I already knew the Holy Ghost was real, I already believed the oneness of God, I aready knew about baptism in Jesus Name. So just a few times of going there I was determined to get the Holy Ghost. I read Acts 2 and Acts 8 and I believed if I would obey the scripture to be baptized in Jesus name that God would give me the Holy Ghost. I called that pastor up one sunday and told him I wanted to be Baptized. He said come on down right now. So we went down there, way back in that holler, on a cold sunny day in February. I was Baptized in Jesus name at Slick Ford creek, near Monticello KY. I went on to service that night just feeling God like never before. I was up on the plat form playing on a guitar when they began to sing. I started to worship and got lost in the presence of God. Im not sure how it happend but I got that guitar off and was standing in front of the the alter. A brother put his hands on my head and I lifted mine and said Jesus! Then all I know is I hit the floor rolling and praising God in ways I couldnt understand or even control. I tried to get up and could not, I tried to stand and could not, I tried to speak normal but all I could say was Jesus. I new was changed and Jesus (the Holy Ghost) came in that night. Then came the rejection and persecution! I told my boss (the preacher who had baptized me in the titles when I was 12) that I got the Holy Ghost. He said that good. I said yes, but it what else I did that you wont agree with. I got baptized in Jesus name, I said. He looked with surprize and disgust. Then came the questions, the interogation in preachers offices, the losing friends, the being banished from pulpits, even my own family was against me. I was alone, But I hung on to that experience that night, I knew what I got was real and right. I got my strength from the word of God. Then God placed some knew people in my life that made me feel accepted again. I began to preach the One God, Apostolic, tongue talking, Holiness message and been preaching it ever since. Thats been over 10 years ago. I wouldn't trade this Jesus name, Holy Ghost salvation for anything in the world. Thanks be to God!

in Jesus name,

Bro. Billy Vaughn

Billy Vaughn Apr 4 '13 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 1
Billy Vaughn
Sweet Communion, Peaceful Meditations. Ah the Joy of the presence of the Living God! We eat of that bread (Word), We drink of that cup (Spirit). Communion= Fellowship. Possible only in the Spirit since He is not here in the Flesh. He leads us to the rivers of Living Water, we eat of the Tree of Life. Its leaves (pages) are for the healing of the nations. Hallelujah!
Billy Vaughn Mar 22 '13
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